Association Fouga Magister CM170 / Maintenance / Flight training / Unusual attitude recovery

Monday, August 6, 2012

Flying the fouga without canopy

Yes it is possible to fly the Fouga without canopy at high altitude.
Sure depending of the altitude you will need oxygen and a thick jacket.

That picture was taken with aircraft serial # 3 for test flight.
So in case of canopy burst, do not panic, just fly the airplane.

New ACME mechanics

Instead of replacing the brake HP transmitter, a ACME mechanic found an Jimmy Rig system.

Remember we working on aircraft , not farm truck or tractors

Aircraft modification who impede the safety

This is what you have to look for : the systems fonctions
Some guru mechanics modify system without knowing how they work.
On one aircraft I have this exemple:
Flush C/B's are nice look in the cockpit.
The big problem is that: - For emergency LDG extention you have to pull out the LDG c/b to be able to bring the landing gear in down position.
- In case of trim runaway you have to pull out the trim c/b.
So on that picture let me know if you had thoses emergency procedures to apply how to do it ?

When did you checked the tip tanks pressure ?

This is what you need to check if the Tip Tanks pressure is good.

When you inspect a engine know what you are doing.

After having inspected engines with a borescope, that what came under my eyes.
So before writting to fast in the aircraft logs, inspected the engine and found in good condition

Ok for eturn to service . Spend a little bit more time inspecting, because thoses engines did not flew since the last engine inspection and cracks does not happen with engines not running.

Friday, April 13, 2012

Fouga for sale / Sold / Sold / Sold / Vendu /Vendu

1968 Fouga CM170 for sale .

Ex French Air Force aerobatic team with Turbomeca Marbore VI engines. S/N 546 . featured in " Les chevaliers du ciel " 1970 TV series.

Pictured in "Le fouga sous toutes ses couleurs " page 49. Reinforced wings, elevators/rudders, pressurized hydraulic reservoir. 12 years inspection performed in accordance with CAH100.

All new hydraulic, fuel, oil, pressure & static hoses. All seals replaced on both engines for preventive maintenance. Certified and current in phase II status. Pitot/static/transponder check performed 06/2011. One of the "Real" lowest engine time in the US. Safety of having two engines.

The only Fouga flying under the new operating limitations Group 4 of the 8130-2G authorized to fly in TCA group B with no radius limitations, no need to reapply for operating limitations or maintenance program in case of change of ownership and can carry passenger. Date of new operating limitations issued: 12/15/2011.

Dont invest in a project who would take you at the end of a couple of months or years more than this Fouga ready to fly to your airport and more money.

Rate of climb +- 3,500ft/mn with 100 degres temperature at the airport. Better perfor

mances than L39 ( Reno jet races 2008 ) . Turnkey operations. Test flight available before purchase and recommanded. Contact Fred 310-497-5356 or send a E-mail

e-mail: fougacm170@yahoo.com

Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Fouga in the Champ Elysees

I was called for help to install a Fouga in the Champ Elysees Paris France at the Marcel Dassault Hotel.

He was sold last Sunday the 29 of January 2012 .

Morane Paris MS760 type rating

A. for an authorization to act as PIC of the Morane Saulnier Paris Jet MS760 turbojet‑powered aircraft, an applicant must:

· Possess at least a U.S. private pilot certificate with an appropriate category and class rating (e.g., airplane, multi‑engine land);

· Hold an instrument rating;

· Possess at least a valid U To be eligible.S. third‑class medical certificate;

· 250 hours total time in a complex / high performance aircraft.

Turbojet‑Powered or Rocket‑Powered Airplane. To be eligible
to serve as PIC of a turbojet‑powered or rocket‑powered airplane not considered
to be a former military airplane, an applicant must:

1) Possess at least a U.S. private pilot certificate with an appropriate category and class rating;

2) Possess at least a valid U.S. third‑class medical certificate or equivalent

(U.S. Military Flight Medical or U.S. driver’s license in accordance with the

FAA BasicMed process (pilots using BasicMed may not exceed 250 KIAS));

3) Hold an instrument rating appropriate to the category;

4) Have completed the training requirements of this section;

and

5) If the aircraft has a V_NE of 250 KIAS or greater, have a minimum of 250 hours of pilot flight time as PIC in a complex, high performance airplane.

B. Training Requirements.

1) Training must meet the standards specified in the appropriate parts of the practical test standards (PTS) for type ratings (FAA‑S‑8081‑5, Airline Transport Pilot and Aircraft Type Rating, Practical Test Standards for Airplane, current edition). At a minimum, an applicant’s ground training program must include the following requirements:

· The airplane’s systems and components.

· Ground emergency procedures, including abnormal procedures, if described in the airplane’s checklist.

· Flight emergency procedures, including abnormal procedures, if described in the airplane’s checklist.

· Use of performance charts, including (but not limited to) takeoff, climb, cruise, and landing.

· Fuel requirements and fuel management.

· Runway requirements and limitations (e.g., minimum runway lengths and crosswind limits of the airplane).

· Contents of the Aircraft Flight Manual (AFM) or equivalent.

· Operating limitations prescribed for the specific airplane, both the manufacturer’s and FAA‑issued.

· Operation of the airplane in the high‑altitude realm, if applicable.

· Recovery from abnormal flight profiles based on specific aircraft characteristics.

2) The applicant’s flight training program must meet the standards established in FAA‑S‑8081‑5. The recommending instructor must have personally flown with the applicant in the airplane type (for multi seat with functioning dual controls). This training must include the following requirements:

· Airplane preflight.

· Crew Resource Management (CRM), including single pilot, as appropriate.

· Powerplant start procedure, taxiing, and pre takeoff checks.

· Normal and crosswind takeoff.

· Powerplant failure during takeoff.

· Rejected takeoff.

· Flight at critically slow airspeeds in all appropriate configurations.

· Approaches to and recovery from stalls, as appropriate. Recovery from normal and abnormal flight profiles based on specific aircraft characteristics, including unusual attitudes.

· Normal, emergency, and abnormal procedures.

· Landing with simulated powerplant failure.

· Normal and crosswind landings.

· Landing from a no‑flap or a nonstandard flap approach.

· Rejected landing.

· Fuel‑low level/return to base procedures.

· Aerobatics, if appropriate to the airplane and requested by the applicant, if the applicant can provide operating limitations required by § 91.319 authorizing aerobatics and specific maneuvers.

Fouga Magister CM170

CM170 (Fouga)
weight 7100lbs
Pressurized, air conditioned and oxygen
Boosted ailerons Performance specifications:
+5.5/-3g
Power: 2/880lbs of thrust MarboreII /1056lbs for MarboreVI
Rate of climb: 3100ft/mn
Max level flight speed: 340kts
Cruise speed: 250 to 320kts
Loop entry: 280kts
Best climb: 180kts or M0.42
Final approch speed: 110kts
Stall speed: 85kts
The Fouga CM170 first appeared in 1959 with the French Air Force.
929 airplanes were manufactured in France.
Used by 20 countries, it served as a trainer for acrobatics, bombing, air to ground, air to air combat.
You will be able to be one of those 15000 pilots trained on the FougaCM170.
Authorized Experimental Aircraft Ratings Current Guidance contained in 8700.1, Chapter 32, paragraph 7, items 1 - 4 is still valid for eligibility requirements:
A. Surplus Military Turbine-Powered Airplanes. To be eligible to serve as PIC of a surplus military turbine-powered aircraft, an applicant must:
5-1580 ELIGIBILITY FOR AN AIRCRAFT AUTHORIZATION. Aircraft authorizations may be issued by either an EAE or an ASI (Operations) authorized by the NPO. Since “other aircraft authorizations” are similar to type ratings, the eligibility, application, issuance, and limitations will be similar to a type rating. By the same reasoning, once an “other aircraft authorization” is issued to an individual, then (like a type rating) it should be issued for an indefinite period of time or without an expiration date. Requirements for eligibility for an authorization include completion of training, testing, and evaluation in the same manner as would be required for a type rating.A. To be eligible for an authorization to act as PIC of a surplus military turbojet‑powered aircraft, an applicant must:· Possess at least a U.S. private pilot certificate with an appropriate category and class rating (e.g., airplane, single‑engine land or multi-engines);· Hold an instrument rating;· Possess at least a valid U.S. third‑class medical certificate;· Have logged a minimum of 500 hours of pilot flight time in the aircraft category and have completed the U.S. armed services qualification checkout described in subparagraph 5‑1582A1) of this section; or· Have logged a minimum of 1,000 hours pilot flight time, including 500 hours as PIC in the aircraft category, and have completed one of the training requirements of subparagraph 5‑1582B.
NOTE: Aliens seeking flight training must register with the Transportation Security Administration’s (TSA) Alien Flight Student Program (AFSP) at the following Web site: https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov, or call 703‑542‑1222.
http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=8900.1,Vol.5,Ch9,Sec2

Fouga Magister CM170 type rating

Training Requirements.1) Training must meet the standards specified in the appropriate parts of the practical test standards (PTS) for type ratings FAA‑S‑8081‑5, Airline Transport Pilot and Aircraft Type Rating, Practical Test Standards for Airplane, current edition). At a minimum, an applicant’s ground training program must include the following requirements:· The airplane’s systems and components.· Ground emergency procedures, including abnormal procedures, if described in the airplane’s checklist.· Flight emergency procedures, including abnormal procedures, if described in the airplane’s checklist.· Use of performance charts, including (but not limited to) takeoff, climb, cruise, and landing.· Fuel requirements and fuel management.· Runway requirements and limitations (e.g., minimum runway lengths and crosswind limits of the airplane).· Contents of the Aircraft Flight Manual (AFM) or equivalent.· Operating limitations prescribed for the specific airplane, both the manufacturer’s and FAA‑issued.· Operation of the airplane in the high‑altitude realm, if applicable.· Recovery from abnormal flight profiles based on specific aircraft characteristics.2) The applicant’s flight training program must meet the standards established in FAA‑S‑8081‑5. The recommending instructor must have personally flown with the applicant in the airplane type (for multiseat with functioning dual controls) or a comparable type (for single‑seat). This training must include the following requirements:· Airplane preflight.· Crew Resource Management (CRM), including single pilot, as appropriate.· Powerplant start procedure, taxiing, and pretakeoff checks.· Normal and crosswind takeoff.· Powerplant failure during takeoff.· Rejected takeoff.· Flight at critically slow airspeeds in all appropriate configurations.· Approaches to and recovery from stalls, as appropriate.· Recovery from normal and abnormal flight profiles based on specific aircraft characteristics, including unusual attitudes.· Normal, emergency, and abnormal procedures.· Landing with simulated powerplant failure.· Normal and crosswind landings.· Landing from a no‑flap or a nonstandard flap approach.· Rejected landing.· Fuel‑low level/return to base procedures.· Aerobatics, if appropriate to the airplane and requested by the applicant, if the applicant can provide operating limitations required by § 91.319 authorizing aerobatics and specific maneuvers.

Voler sur fouga CM170 avec Marbore II ou VI en place avant si pilote prive ou avec des connaissances de pilotage.
Vous volerez dans le complex R2508 ( zone d'evolution ) de California City pres de la base de l' Air Force d'Edwards , China Lake , de la Vallee de la Mort , ce complex etant controle par les militaires qui ont l'habitude avec des avions de combats supersoniques , donc pas de problemes pour le Fouga CM170 et vous n'aurez pas la gendarmerie qui vous attendra a l'arrivee de votre vol apres une navigation basse.

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Monday, August 6, 2012

Flying the fouga without canopy

New ACME mechanics

Aircraft modification who impede the safety

When did you checked the tip tanks pressure ?

When you inspect a engine know what you are doing.

Friday, April 13, 2012

Fouga for sale / Sold / Sold / Sold / Vendu /Vendu

Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Fouga in the Champ Elysees

Morane Paris MS760 type rating

A. for an authorization to act as PIC of the Morane Saulnier Paris Jet MS760 turbojet‑powered aircraft, an applicant must:

Turbojet‑Powered or Rocket‑Powered Airplane. To be eligible
to serve as PIC of a turbojet‑powered or rocket‑powered airplane not considered
to be a former military airplane, an applicant must:

1) Possess at least a U.S. private pilot certificate with an appropriate category and class rating;

FAA BasicMed process (pilots using BasicMed may not exceed 250 KIAS));

B. Training Requirements.

Fouga Magister CM170

Fouga Magister CM170 type rating

Fouga Fan

Blog Archive

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Monday, August 6, 2012

Friday, April 13, 2012

Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Morane Paris MS760 type rating

A. for an authorization to act as PIC of the Morane Saulnier Paris Jet MS760 turbojet‑powered aircraft, an applicant must:

Turbojet‑Powered or Rocket‑Powered Airplane. To be eligible to serve as PIC of a turbojet‑powered or rocket‑powered airplane not considered to be a former military airplane, an applicant must:

1) Possess at least a U.S. private pilot certificate with an appropriate category and class rating;

FAA BasicMed process (pilots using BasicMed may not exceed 250 KIAS));

B. Training Requirements.

Fouga Magister CM170

Fouga Magister CM170 type rating

Turbojet‑Powered or Rocket‑Powered Airplane. To be eligible
to serve as PIC of a turbojet‑powered or rocket‑powered airplane not considered
to be a former military airplane, an applicant must: