Saturday, June 26, 2010

What is the CM170 , super magister, CM173 or potez 94

This is the CM173 or Potez 94.

A lot of ads and articles are wrong. The CM173 was produced at only one and only one prototype.
He was equiped with 2 ejection seats and had Marbore Super VI engines with 530 kgs of thrust or 1170 lbs of thrust per engine. (derated Marbore VI)
Misprint in the books calling for 4800 kgs of thrust per engine or 10560 lbs of thrust per engine and copied from article to article.

With a total of 21120 lbs of thrust the CM173 would had the double power of the Mig 21 fishbed !!!!.

Be realistic and lets go back to earth.

What is called the super magister is simply the Fouga CM170 or CM170-2 with Marbore VI engines with 1056 lbs of thrust per engine produced at 137 units and used in France , Lebanon , Ireland .


The other Fouga CM170 have Marbore II engines with 400 kgs of thrust or 880 lbs of thrust per engine.


Now you know .

Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Article on fouga

by : David P Forsyth
Looking for the ultimate flying machine? Consider the CM-170 Fouga Magister. This twin jet, tandem seat, high performance fighter/trainer is a proven aerobatics machine. It has been used by the national aerobatics display teams of France, Germany, Belgium, Brazil, Finland, Ireland and Israel. Magisters have been thrilling crowds around the world for decades. These planes are now available for sale to civilian pilots for use in sport aviation and aerobatics exhibitions. The qualities which make these airplanes so attractive for sport aviation enthusiasts are their unique combination of performance, affordability, and styling. Just one look at these aircraft betrays their military heritage and functionality.
The Fouga Magister and the Super Fouga Magister (with more powerful engines) are fully aerobatic, being rated for 5.5 positive and 3 negative Gs. Its roll rate exceeds 200 degrees per second. A fuel boost system allows for more than 30 seconds of sustained inverted flight. The rate of climb in a Super Magister is close to 5,000 feet per minute. Service ceiling is over 40,000 feet. Maximum speed is 390 knots (Mach 0.82) and stall speed is only 78 knots. Speed brakes provide for rapid descents and easy go-arounds. Off-axis thrust allows for safe and efficient single engine operation. In short, the Fouga Magister is the realization of almost every pilot's dream of what recreational flying should be: fast, precise and exciting. The rear cockpit even lets you share the experience with special friends.
Affordability is always a major factor to consider for those seeking a recreational aircraft. There is a huge cost envelop in the market for sport aircraft. Purchase prices range from ten thousand dollar ultralights to multimillion dollar air racers and classics. Fouga Magisters can be purchased for under a hundred thousand USD. Super Fouga Magisters start at about $120,000. Another economic consideration for those seeking a high performance aircraft is operating cost. Even if you could afford (or were allowed) to buy an F-4 Phantom or F-14 Tomcat, the gas bill alone would probably put you in the poor house. But the fuel burn in a Magister can be as low as 110 gallons per hour. You also have many options for usable fuels in a Fouga. These first generation Marbore pure jets will run on almost anything, including Jet-A, JP-4, jet kerosene, for emergency : normal Aviation Gasoline, and even heating oil in a pinch. Thus a Fouga can be operated at the reasonable cost of several hundred dollars per hour. This is well within the means of many sport aviation pilots.
The Fouga also offers unique styling with its distinctive "V" tail and tandem cockpit configuration. The sleek fuselage gives the impression of a true jet fighter plane and this feeling is reinforced when you climb into the cockpit. The forward cockpit offers excellent visibility through the pressurized canopy. The articulated stick allows unrestricted control movement even for pilots with long legs. The rear cockpit is not elevated, so an optical periscope is installed to provide the back seater with a good view forward during take-off and landing (or bombing/gunnery runs). Other unusual features include a small recessed tail wheel to prevent damage from over-rotation on take-off or landing.
There are also "hands on throttle and stick" (HOTAS) controls for speed bakes and trim tabs (gun, rocket and bomb triggers can even be rewired to control add-ons such as a stereo or GPS system). For a first generation jet fighter/trainer the Fouga Magister is extremely advanced and pioneered many of the improvements found on more complex combat aircraft. The fact that these airplanes can now be affordably owned and flown by private pilots is great news for sport aviation enthusiasts.

Tuesday, June 1, 2010

Fouga history 1


Cost of Living 1954How Much things cost in 1954Yearly Inflation Rate USA 0.32% Yearly Inflation Rate UK 1.9% Average Cost of new house $10.250.00 Cost of a gallon of Gas 22 cents Average Cost of a new car $1,700.00 Average Monthly Rent $85.00 Movie Ticket 70 cents Life Magazine 20 cents


At today rate
35,000.00 GBP
51,591.56 USD in 1954
so new Cessna 172 who in 1956 at a price of $8,700.00
in 2008 cost $234,000.00 so a new Fouga today would cost around $1,387,620.00 at least.
A used Cessna C172 built in 1956 is selling today between $25,000.00 to $40,000.00
So with the price of the Fouga in 1954 it would bring the price today at $148,000.00
Why do you find some Fouga so cheap ?
Because they are not maintained like they are supposed to be.
If you find a Cessna C172 at $3,500.00 today , do you think that Cessna is complete , in perfect conditions and ready to fly ?

Fouga history 2